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The verses herein directly relate to England. Characters who are also connected to England are treated separately: see also Macedonian, Aenobarbe, Empire, France, Italy, Chyren. Additional verses will be added from time to time, and commentary as fitting based on the feedback received to Nostradamus on England.
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The great Empire of England will be,
The all-powerful one for more than 300 years;
Great armies to pass by land and sea,
The Portuguese will not be contented by it.
One might think that being such a confessed and avid Catholic and supporter of the French Monarchy, that Nostradamus might take a dim view towards England. But Nostradamus is neither what the previous authors have made him out to be: for they imply and some say he was a great and learned student, when in fact he was forced or booted out of college, for spending his time looking into things that had nothing to do with studies expected. Neither was his father or any relatives knowledgeable in the arts of Astrology, or the Quabbala. There is not one jot of evidence for such claims.
Anyway, setting such things aside, for one reason or another it is a pointless discussion. Here we have man who can see the future, a man who at least by virtue of the verses knows an awful lot about ancient history. Thus, we might think that this most staunch Catholic, seeing and experiencing the rise of Henry the 8th, and the total destruction of his beloved faith, both in England and other parts of Europe. Seeing what Henry began, pushed further by Henry's son Edward the 6th, seeing the temporary reversal by Mary the 1st who was crowned 2 years before he first published the centuries, and seeing before he died the crowning of Elizabeth the 1st who would ensure there was no return, what are we to make of him? If he could see the future, what must have gone through his mind, at seeing the destruction of his own people under Hitler.
Indeed, he shows very few signs in his verses that the events unfolding before his mind's eye have any effect at all.
So, let us turn our attention towards the verses that mention, England.
The young heir to the British realm,
Whom his dying father will have recommended:
When the father is dead, London will oppose him,
And demand the realm back from his son.
End of line 3 has, topique, from Topiquer= to oppose, contest with, bandy against. Has 'Lonole' for London. Most authors nowadays think this verse concerns Edward 8th who succeeded his father, George 5th in 1936, but abdicated later in order to marry his beloved American divorcee Wallis Simpson.
The entry at Blaye by Rochelle and the English,
Passing beyond the great Aemathien (Macedonian):
Not far from Agen the French will wait,
help from Narbonne deceived through their entreaties.
Blaye, a town with small port, in Nouvelle Aquitaine, S. Western France. If Rochelle, is La Rochelle it is seaport on the Bay of Biscay and capital of the Charente Maritime. Approx. 78 miles from Blaye as the crow flies. Agen is now in the Lot-et- Garonne department, in the region of Nouvelle Aquitaine, on the Garonne river. Line 3 has Gaulois, people of France. Narbonne, commune S.F. in the Occitainie region.
The great conflict that they are preparing for at Nancy,
The Macedonian (Aemathien) will boast, I will subjugate all:
The British Isles anxious over the lack of salt and wine.
Hem. Mi, 2 Phi. Will not hold feasts for a long time.
Typical British attitude, the whole worlds in turmoil, wars everywhere, they are under siege, and they worry about wine, and salt for their vegetables, but there will be plenty of beer, so not all's lost. Lol.
Nancy is the capital of the Grand-Est region in the department of Meuthe-et-Moselle, north eastern France, on the Meuthe river.
The great one felled by lightning during the daytime,
The evil, predicted by the carrier of demands:
According to the prediction he falls during the night,
Conflict at Reims (France) Londres=London, and plague in Tuscany (Italy).
Line 2 ends, 'par porteur postulaire'. Both EL, and JH, Seek 'postulaire' from Latin? But why? When it was already adopted into the French language? Postule= demanded, required, sued or petitioned for, etc.
I do not say that it is wrong to seek the root of any word, but it is wrong when it is done to imply that Nostradamus was using Latin, because the word was not used or known in French. These authors do it to mask their lack of knowledge, by pretending they have some.
Within the land of the great heavenly temple,
Nephew in London through false peace murdered:
The Barque will then be divided and schismatic,
By trumpet and cry false liberty will be proclaimed.
The great heavenly temple, is located in London, but you'd have to know the king's bird to know where.
30 from London will conspire secretly
Against their king, upon the bridge they will carry out the enterprise:
He and his satellites (followers) will loath death,
A blond king, native of Frize (Holland) will be elected in his place.
Naples, Palermo, Syracuse, and Sicily (overall),
New tyrants, lightening and heavenly fires:
Forces from London, Ghent and Brussels and Susa (Suses)(Italy?) great hecatombe (a),
the victory celebrated by great feasts, -festivites- rejoicing.
It seems from other verses, that at some point in history, Naples (Italy) and Sicily (along with Spain, although that is not obvious in this verse, unless, the Susa mentioned, is related to Spain?) form an alliance. According to other verses this alliance attacks Rome? (a) a Hetcatombe, is primarily an act of Sacrifice, normally involving the slaughter of at least a 100 beasts: I have never seen it used in conjunction with slaughter on a battlefield.
Seven times you will see the people of Gt Britain (Britannique) change,
Stained by blood for 290 years:
At no point, free from German support.
Aries suspicious of its Bastarnan pole.
There is much debate over the origins etc. of the Bastarnae, they seem to have been Germanic, but may have been Celtic, and to have settled at some point near the mouth of the (Ister) Danube river. However, see comments on Century 6, Verse 7.
Norway and Dacia and the British Isles,
Will be vexed by the united brothers:
The Roman chief issued from French blood,
and his forces hurled back into the forests.
The Greeks referred to the Dacia as Getae, a branch of the Thracians. Dacia is bordered in the south roughly by the (Ister) Danube, the region SE. of the Danube is the core area where the Getae lived. In the east, it ends on the Black sea coast and the river Dniester, it roughly correlates to the present day contries of Romania and Moldova, as well as small parts of Bulgaria, Serbia, Hungary and the Ukraine. At times, the Bastarnae spoken of in C3v57 were within its borders. Considering the verses mention of an army driven into the forests, I note that in 53BC, Julius Ceasar states that, the lands of the Dacians started on the edge of the Black Forest.
The Dacians are recorded as being Thracians and allies of the Trojans in the Trojan War against the Greeks. Furthermore, in Greek Mythology, Thrax (Thrace) was regarded as one of the sons of the God Ares (Aries). I read in Alcestis, by Euripides, that Thrax was actually a title of Ares, since he was regarded as the patron god of Thrace.
Considering the first 2 lines of the verse, I suspect we are talking about the 3 brothers, of the Feur-de-Lis, and that being united in the cause-aims they are attacking on 3 separate fronts, one against England, another against Norway and the 3rd against Dacia.
[for books referred to, or used, see books list, Euripides. Greek myths, the Iliad, the works of Caesar and others.]
The people of Dacia, England, Poland,
And of Bohemia, will form a new alliance:
To pass beyond the pillars of Hercules,
Those of Barcelona and the Tyrrhenians will hatch a cruel plot.
Bohemia [French-Boheme, Nostra' writes Boesme.] makes up more than 50% of the present day Czech Republic. Barcelona [nostra' gives it by the Latin Barcin-s] it is the capital of Catalonia, of the kingdom of Spain, and one of Europe's principal seaports. Quite who the Tyrrhenians is much disputed, but the Tyrrhenian Sea is situated between the Italian facing coasts of Sicily, Sardinia and Corsica and the Italian coast from Tuscany down to Calabria. Thus in general we might think in terms of Spain and Italy preparing some sort of ambush against the alliance formed in lines 1 and 2. In simple terms the Pillars of Hercules sit on opposite sides of the narrow Strait of Gibraltar leading into the Alboran sea and the Med. So, it seems logical that a great fleet will be assembled by the Alliance to travel from the Atlantic, through the Straits of Gibraltar into the Med, presumably to attack Italy?
More Macelin than a king of England,
Born in obscure place, through force he will attain the Empire:
Treacherous (a) and without faith, without law, he will bloody the land,
His time approaches so near that I sigh.
EL. Remarks that Macelin is from the Latin Macellum, which he reckons signifies, Meat market, thus renders it 'butcher' JH. Renders it the same without remark. But, 'marcellar'= grocer, and Marcellum= grocery store, or groceries, considering Napoleon call England a land of shopkeepers, I would rather render it, more a grocer, than a king. Especially considering c1 v60, emperor born near Italy, found less prince than boucher= butcher, see full verse in Empire book 39. (a) the word here should be Lasche, as, slack, cowardly, effeminate, treacherous. JH. Thinks this verse is about Oliver Cromwell, but Cromwell never was or wanted to be king. The verse does not tie in with any of the kings of England, since 1556 When the 2nd half of the centuries were published?
The 2nd chief of the realm of Annemarc,
Through those of Frisia (Holland) and the British Isles,
Will spend more than 100,000 marks,
Executing in vain a voyage to Italy.
The feat well defended by excellence,
Guard yourself Tours from your approaching ruin
London and Nantes at Reims will form a defence,
Do not pass further in the times of drizzle.
Nantes is on the lower end of the Loire river, and Tours further inland on the same river. Reims is NE. of Paris.
The English chief delays too long at Nimes,
Towards Spain to help the (Aenobarbe) red beard:
A great many will by the war started that day,
When in Artois the bearded star falls (meteorite?).
Artois, a region in northern France, main cities Arras, Saint Omar, Lens and Bethune.
Those besieged within the Isles for so long,
Will have courage and strength against their enemies,
Those outside by famine dead and wasted,
A greater famine they will never have experienced.
It is all well and good for an ill-supplied army to ravage the countries they are passing through, but when you get stuck in one, supplies, sooner or later run out, you cannot rob an empty house, or harvest an unsown field. And you cannot get resupplied even from your own when they are starving too, this famine will spread far beyond Europe. I think it was a famously powerful and rich Chinese Emperor who said something like, all the wealth in the world cannot by food when there is none.
Within the Isles such terrible sedition,
One will hear only those want war,
So- great will be the assaults of the predators,
That they will come arrange a great league, alliance.
From the deepest part of western England,
Where the chief of the British Isles is
A fleet will enter the Gironde Estuary from Blois,
Through wine and salt, fires hidden at the barricades?
Barriques, either Barrels or more likely perhaps as barriquer= to barricade; stop, fortify, with barrels, timber, poles, stones etc. it sounds as if a fleet sails from England to Blois, on the Loire river, France; then returns to the sea, goes a bit further down the French coast and enters the Gironde Estuary. Quite why is not obvious. It is not possible to go from Blois to the Gironde without returning to the sea first.
Bravo! You from the Thames, Gironde and La Rochelle:
O Trojan blood! War at the port of the Arrow
Behind the river ladders put to the fort,
Points of fire great murder upon the breach.
I think I would avoid volunteering for the Forlorn Hope on this occasion.
Euge-(Latin) interjection= terrific, bravo, cheers.
Towards Aquitaine those from the British Isles
By these without allies, great incursions.
Rains, frosts will make the ground treacherous,
Via Port Selyn to make mighty invasions.
Throughout Guyenne an infinite number of English,
They will occupy it under the name of Anglaquitaine:
In Languedoc Ispalme, Bordeaux,
Which they will name after Barboxitaine.
Guyenne, usually spelt Guienne in English is an old French province, roughly what is now Nouvelle Aquitaine, hence the name,
A N G L E T E R E = England.
A Q U I T AI N E.
A N G L A Q U I T A I N E.
Languedoc, is also a former province of France, its territory is now contained in the modern-day region of Occitainie S. F. its capital is Toulouse. Bordeaux is a port on the Garonne river, in the Gironde department SW. France.
Great Brittany and England included,
Will come to be flooded by very high waters,
The new league of Ausonia (Italy) will make war on them,
That against them they will band together.
Oh dear, the authors make the same mistake again. (see Century 6, Verse 53, in France) in line one in French we have 'La grande Bretagne comprise d'Angleterre.' EL. JH. MR. all render the same translation, except MR, who leaves out the 'the', 'the Great Britain including England.' What a ridiculous sentence, you could hardly say, all of Great Britain except England? England is the most important part. Bretagne is French for Brittany.
To ascend to Empire, he will prepare an army,
The Royal bloodline will possess the Vatican:
The Flemish, English and Spanish inspired,
Against Italy and France will contend.